Jul 7, 2023 · 2022-2023 Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine (Middletown Campus) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. Apr 22, 2022 · Jan 21, 2022. Messages. 225. Reaction score. 167. Jul 1, 2022. #9. sGPA of 3.8 and post-bacc of 51 science credits at 4.0. But I received an email from them saying my application is on hold due to not meeting the preferred 60 science credit minimum. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: All Essay questions have a max word count of 200 words. Essay questions(1-4): 1. Explain your understanding of osteopathic medicine and your interest...Jul 23, 2023 · Review of Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine - Moultrie, GA . Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. 6. Reaction score. 0. Jul 20, 2022. #38. sgpa is a 3.19. 3.7 sgpa for my last 48 units (I really did myself a number my first years in undergrad). 508 MCAT. Will update if they screen me out or round up to a 3.2. Currently doing a DIY postbacc and am in the middle of my first class. GL everyone.2022-2023 Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine (ICOM) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3.Apr 24, 2022 · Apr 24, 2022. #1. Thank you to @notacarrotmuncher for sharing this year's questions. 2022-2023 NYU (Grossman) Secondary Essay Prompts. 1. If applicable, please comment on significant fluctuations in your academic record which are not explained elsewhere on your application. 2. 10,731. Reaction score. 17,944. Apr 23, 2022. #1. Thank you to @runner31 for sharing this year's essay prompts. 2022-2023 Miami (Miller) Secondary Essay Prompts. All responses should be less than 500 words each. 1.2022-2023 LMU-DCOM Secondary Essay Prompts 1) REQUIRED: Please write and ATTACH the short essay addressing ONE of the following questions: Medical school requires a huge commitment in time and energy. How have you prepared for this commitment? OR If you are a re-applicant please tell us what you have done to strengthen your application.Jul 7, 2023 · 2022-2023 Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine (Middletown Campus) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. Jul 7, 2023 · 2022-2023 Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine (Middletown Campus) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. Y'all I am STRUGGLING with this question: Describe the community in which you see yourself practicing medicine. (Max. 1000 characters) What did y'all do? I do have a genuine interest and mission to work in medically underserved areas, and I know I want specialty I want to go into.Apr 21, 2022 · Jun 25, 2022. #47. FutureDoc2112 said: Low gpa and sgpa even after post-bacc. Post bacc was 3.6.. For both gpa. The cgpa 3.25 and sgpa 2.92. Had to retake mcat and score is pending but on fl was scoring 508-512. I have +1000 hours of volunteering and +1000 hours working in healthcare settings. Apr 21, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt is posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: Please discuss your primary interest in attending the Medical College of Georgia at Augusta University. (300 words) Please describe your motivation for becoming a ...They do take letters from AACOMAS. The email says: “Please make certain all supporting documents (letters of recommendation from your college or university and MCAT scores) have been submitted prior to the date of the interview.Apr 22, 2022 · Thank you to @runner31 for sharing this year's questions 2022-2023 University of South Florida Secondary Essay Prompts USF Morsani has 2 tracks you could apply to - read about them before applying & writing your essays USF CORE and SELECT tracks 1. Do you believe the competitiveness (i.e. course requirements, experiences, academic performance ... Jul 13, 2023 · Review of California Health Sciences University - College of Osteopathic Medicine Interview Feedback. Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. Apr 21, 2022 · Review of Western University of Health Sciences College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific-Northwest Interview Feedback. Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. www.studentdoctor.net. Last edited: Jul 7, 2022. S. All of the PCOM campuses have their 'secondary' questions built into the AACOMAS primary app under the Questions tab, and the 'supplemental' application centers more around paying the fee ($75, from previous years' threads).Pre-Medical (DO) Osteopathic Medical School Discussions Prior Years. 2022-2023 A.T. Still University (Mesa, Arizona) ATSU-SOMA. PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.1. Required Essay: All applicants are required to answer the following question in the form of an essay. There is no specific word count, font or font size required. Please name the file using following format: "last name, first name, required essay". There are philosophical and tangible...Help Me Decide: X vs Y Medical School. Received acceptance to more than one medical school and want to get input before making your decision? This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3.Jan 21, 2022. Messages. 225. Reaction score. 167. Jul 1, 2022. #9. sGPA of 3.8 and post-bacc of 51 science credits at 4.0. But I received an email from them saying my application is on hold due to not meeting the preferred 60 science credit minimum.Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: All Essay questions have a max word count of 200 words. Essay questions(1-4): 1. Explain your understanding of osteopathic medicine and your interest...2022-2023 Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Osteopathic Medicine (NSU-KPCOM) This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.Goro's Guide to the DO School Application Process, 2022 ed. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. Members don't see this ad. That time of year! OK, it's app season, and I've already addressed things that will be common concerns to any med school applicant (MD or DO).17,935. Apr 24, 2022. #1. Thank you to @icedsoylatte for sharing this year's questions! 2022-2023 Medical College of Wisconsin (MCW) Secondary Essay Prompts. 1. Explain how your unique background, identity, interests, or talents will contribute to the MCW learning community. (1000 characters) 2. How will MCW uniquely prepare you for your future ...May 3, 2023 · 2023-2024 MD Medical School-Specific Discussions. Allopathic medical school-specific discussions of secondary prompts, interview invites, and experiences, and general discussions of the admissions process at a particular institution. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. 4. Jul 13, 2023 · Review of California Health Sciences University - College of Osteopathic Medicine Interview Feedback. Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. Apr 21, 2022 · We do have support from the state. Governor, local government, and others have made visits to our campus and met with the students and faculty to discuss policy and problems. We see the governor almost every year during DO day, we are invited to the capitol, and we get to see how the process works. Jun 7, 2022 · Jul 19, 2022. #24. Doctor Bob said: APCCMPD (the association of pulmonary and critical care program directors) has recommended to their constituents that interviews remain virtual this year. It is up to each program to decide if they want to follow that or not. Doctor Bob, Thanks for answering the questions. May 2, 2022 · 2022-2023 Baylor. 2022-2023 Boston University School of Medicine. 2022-2023 Brown (Warren Alpert) 2022-2023 CA University of Science and Medicine. 2022-2023 California Northstate University. 2022-2023 Carle-Illinois College of Medicine. 2022-2023 Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine. Jun 27, 2022. #11. Whether or not you will be a full-time student, please explain what you will be doing prior to your planned matriculation into medical school. Character limit 600 (including spaces). If you have taken a gap year (s), please explain what you have been, or will be doing since graduating from your undergraduate institution.Jun 11, 2023 · Jun 19, 2023. #8. The APCCMPD (association of pulmonary and critical care medicine program directors) is again strongly recommending virtual interviews -only-. I know that from an applicant point of view it's nice to be able to do a whole lot of interviews and not have to take much (if any) time off from residency. July cycle fellowship programs may begin reviewing applications at 9 a.m. ET. November 16, 2022. December cycle fellowship applicants may begin submitting applications to programs at 9 a.m. ET. December 7, 2022. December cycle fellowship programs may begin reviewing applications at 9 a.m. ET. May 31, 2023. ERAS 2023 season ends at 5 p.m. ET.2022-2023 Rush Secondary Essay Prompts. 1. Rush Medical College is located on Chicago’s near west side and serves a diverse patient population. We seek to train physicians who can connect with diverse patient populations with whom they may not share a similar background. Tell us about a life experience that has broadened your own world view ...2021-2022 Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine (PCOM-PA) PapaGuava. Mar 26, 2021. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. ….Y'all I am STRUGGLING with this question: Describe the community in which you see yourself practicing medicine. (Max. 1000 characters) What did y'all do? I do have a genuine interest and mission to work in medically underserved areas, and I know I want specialty I want to go into.Apr 21, 2022 · I submitted my AACOMAS to about 5 schools (LECOM, VCOM, PCOM, NYIT) and was verified on Monday. I submitted with a truly meh MCAT (490), an average GPA (cGPA 3.6, sGPA 3.5), but do have over 1000+ hours of patient care experience working as an MA. I'm retaking the MCAT tomorrow and am confident I can bring my score up. Apr 21, 2022 · We do have support from the state. Governor, local government, and others have made visits to our campus and met with the students and faculty to discuss policy and problems. We see the governor almost every year during DO day, we are invited to the capitol, and we get to see how the process works. 2022-2023 Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Osteopathic Medicine (NSU-KPCOM) This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.Apr 21, 2022 · Messages. 142. Reaction score. 237. Sep 1, 2022. #35. VCOM student here - seems like most medical schools across the country will be re-opening their doors for in-person interviews. I believe VCOM will be, too, but not 100% sure yet. In any case, I highly recommend you to attend in-person interviews if at all possible. 17,979. Apr 23, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Thank you to @immaterialgirls for sharing this year's questions. 2022-2023 Tufts Secondary Essay Prompts (some changes and additions since last year) 1. Do you wish to include any comments (in addition to those already provided in your AMCAS application) to the Admissions Committee at Tufts ...Jul 27, 2023 · 6. Reaction score. 0. Jul 20, 2022. #38. sgpa is a 3.19. 3.7 sgpa for my last 48 units (I really did myself a number my first years in undergrad). 508 MCAT. Will update if they screen me out or round up to a 3.2. Currently doing a DIY postbacc and am in the middle of my first class. GL everyone. Apr 21, 2022 · Apr 21, 2022. #1. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: 1. Describe a significant challenge you have experienced in your life, share the strategies you employed to overcome the challenge, and what you learned from the experience. (500 words) 164. Jun 25, 2022. #8. [mention]wysdoc [/mention] Prompts: 1) The Perelman School of Medicine (PSOM) is deeply committed to recruiting a diverse class to enrich an inclusive team-based learning experience. How would you and your experiences contribute to the diversity of the student body and/or how would you contribute to an inclusive ...Jul 12, 2023 · Reaction score. 3,476. Apr 21, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: 1) Please select the checkbox (es) that most adequately describes your campus and/or curriculum preferences below. Apr 21, 2022 · 2022-2023 Midwestern University (Glendale, Arizona) AZCOM. PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. Apr 21, 2022 · Pre-Medical (DO) Osteopathic Medical School Discussions Prior Years. 2022-2023 A.T. Still University (Mesa, Arizona) ATSU-SOMA. PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 2022-2023 DO Secondary Release Dates. The biggest issue with Reddit is that it is not organized to track information longitudinally. Popular posts get buried after a day or two. Even if you do not like SDN, it is set up better for the organization of information by school over time. We will still ask that you use SDN school-specific threads for ... 2023-2024 DO Medical School-Specific Discussions. Osteopathic medical school-specific discussions of secondary prompts, interview invites, experiences, and general discussions of the admissions process at a particular institution. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors.SDN Interview Question Databank. 2021-2022 Accepted Profiles. 2022-2023 TMDSAS Rank List Thread. 2022-2023 TMDSAS Match Day Thread. 2019-2020 Med School Impressions Thread. Medical Schools' Responses to the COVID-19 Vaccine. Other Resources: CycleTrack - crowdsourced application data and visualization. Medical School Application DiscordThanks to @Meisbad for sharing this year's questions! 2022-2023 New York Medical College Secondary Essay Prompts: 1. If you do not have any family members with a connection to NYMC for any of the below categories you can skip this section. In this activity please indicate if you have/had a family member (Grandparent, Parent or Sibling) that ...Joined. May 6, 2022. Messages. 116. Reaction score. 161. May 31, 2022. #2. Hi, the hyperlinks in the "alphabetic listing 2022-2023" for most of the Edward Via schools are not properly matched up/ have not been updated- they either take you to 2021-2022 or to the incorrect campus.2022-2023 Midwestern University (Glendale, Arizona) AZCOM. PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.Apr 24, 2022 · 10,748. Reaction score. 17,979. Apr 24, 2022. #1. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Interview feedback: Nova Southeastern University - Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Allopathic Medicine Interview Feedback. 2022-2023 Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine (ICOM) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3.Reaction score. 3,476. Apr 21, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: 1) Please select the checkbox (es) that most adequately describes your campus and/or curriculum preferences below.2. Our medical curriculum integrates spiritual, ethical, and relational issues from Christian perspective into the practice of medicine. Weekly chapel services and religion courses are part of this program. Please respond to the above as it relates to your personal educational and career goals. 3.Apr 21, 2022 · 1,235. Jul 1, 2022. #3. We are going to begin sending out invitations to our secondary application next week for those with verfied AMCAS applications in our database. The invitations will go out in small, daily batches until all are sent. Apr 23, 2022 · 17,979. Apr 23, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Thank you to @immaterialgirls for sharing this year's questions. 2022-2023 Tufts Secondary Essay Prompts (some changes and additions since last year) 1. Do you wish to include any comments (in addition to those already provided in your AMCAS application) to the Admissions Committee at Tufts ... Endocrinology fellowship 2022-23. Enthusiastic_Applicant. Jan 8, 2022. endocrinology endocrinology fellowship. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.Aug 26, 2022. #25. memefig said: Lol, don't worry. According to the older app cycle threads for Meharry, they tend to run a little later, going into September. We may get a secondary sometime between now and mid-September. Current M2 at Cooper (which I love so far), but also received an interview invite at Meharry.17,979. Apr 23, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Thank you to @immaterialgirls for sharing this year's questions. 2022-2023 Tufts Secondary Essay Prompts (some changes and additions since last year) 1. Do you wish to include any comments (in addition to those already provided in your AMCAS application) to the Admissions Committee at Tufts ...Apr 21, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt is posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: Please discuss your primary interest in attending the Medical College of Georgia at Augusta University. (300 words) Please describe your motivation for becoming a ...Apr 23, 2022 · 17,979. Apr 23, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Thank you to @immaterialgirls for sharing this year's questions. 2022-2023 Tufts Secondary Essay Prompts (some changes and additions since last year) 1. Do you wish to include any comments (in addition to those already provided in your AMCAS application) to the Admissions Committee at Tufts ... 2022-2023 Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine (ICOM) PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3.2022-2023 Florida Atlantic (Schmidt) Secondary Essay Prompts. 1. Whether or not you will be a full-time student, please provide details of your activities/employment for the application year. (1200 characters) 2. Tell us why you would like to be admitted to the Charles E. Schmidt College of Medicine at FAU.Apr 21, 2022 · Review of Kansas City University College of Medicine and Biosciences - Joplin . Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. Joined. May 6, 2022. Messages. 116. Reaction score. 161. May 31, 2022. #2. Hi, the hyperlinks in the "alphabetic listing 2022-2023" for most of the Edward Via schools are not properly matched up/ have not been updated- they either take you to 2021-2022 or to the incorrect campus.Apr 21, 2022 · I submitted my AACOMAS to about 5 schools (LECOM, VCOM, PCOM, NYIT) and was verified on Monday. I submitted with a truly meh MCAT (490), an average GPA (cGPA 3.6, sGPA 3.5), but do have over 1000+ hours of patient care experience working as an MA. I'm retaking the MCAT tomorrow and am confident I can bring my score up. 2022-2023 Baylor. 2022-2023 Boston University School of Medicine. 2022-2023 Brown (Warren Alpert) 2022-2023 CA University of Science and Medicine. 2022-2023 California Northstate University. 2022-2023 Carle-Illinois College of Medicine. 2022-2023 Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine.2023-2024 DO Medical School-Specific Discussions. Osteopathic medical school-specific discussions of secondary prompts, interview invites, experiences, and general discussions of the admissions process at a particular institution. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors.Review of Campbell University Jerry M. Wallace School of Osteopathic Medicine . Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. schools.studentdoctor.net. Last edited by a moderator: Aug 6, 2022. C.23. Aug 15, 2022. #33. cyclic-wizard said: Just curious, I selected the 9/1 date. Portal says it’s at VCOM Virginia campus in Blackburg. The agenda in my portal doesn’t mention location. The confirmation email states it’s for the Louisiana campus but doesn’t specifically state the location of the interview.Joined. May 6, 2022. Messages. 116. Reaction score. 161. May 31, 2022. #2. Hi, the hyperlinks in the "alphabetic listing 2022-2023" for most of the Edward Via schools are not properly matched up/ have not been updated- they either take you to 2021-2022 or to the incorrect campus.Mar 15, 2022 · It’s strange, because I was comparing last years booklet to this years! It was only mentioned in last years guideline underneath the ‘competing the application section’. However after inspecting the 2022-2023 manual I literally could not find anything about this! I even tried using ctrl+find and entering the exact words but nope! It’s pretty rural. There is some shopping and places to eat, but it is small. The nearest city is about 2 hrs away (and so is the airport). I didn’t find it to be a big deal because you spend majority of your time studying, being in school, doing community service so there isn’t much time for a lot of other things.Here are my stats from when I applied: cGPA: 3.77 sGPA: 3.61 MCAT: 499 (123/129/123/124), 502 (126/126/125/125), and finally 510 (126/128/126/130) Volunteering: 70 hours Shadowing: 114 hours Clinical experience: 6,510 hours (this is probably way above average for my class, do not panic if you have less) Primary submitted: 7/27/2021 Secondary ...65. Reaction score. 68. Jun 30, 2022. #17. Email: Hello toli, Thank you for submitting your application to the Kansas College of Osteopathic Medicine (KansasCOM) through the AACOMAS applicant portal. Now that you have taken this first step, let's discuss what is next.
Jul 12, 2023 · Reaction score. 3,476. Apr 21, 2022. #1. Members don't see this ad. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Secondary Questions: 1) Please select the checkbox (es) that most adequately describes your campus and/or curriculum preferences below. . Upgrade
If you like Student Doctor Network (SDN): 2022-2023 Threads: MD Schools and DO Schools. 2021-2022 Threads: MD Schools and DO Schools. I recommend you follow all the current cycle threads for your school list. Once secondaries have been sent, the prompts will be posted and edited in to the first comment in the thread.This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, ... 2022-2023 Nova Southeastern University Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Osteopathic Medicine ...2022-2023 Quinnipiac Secondary Essay Prompts (substantially changed from least year) 1) If you will not be enrolled as a full-time student, how will you be spending/intend to spend your time during your application year? (150 words) 2) What quality or attribute do you think is most important in being a physician?2023-2024 DO Medical School-Specific Discussions. Osteopathic medical school-specific discussions of secondary prompts, interview invites, experiences, and general discussions of the admissions process at a particular institution. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors.2. Our medical curriculum integrates spiritual, ethical, and relational issues from Christian perspective into the practice of medicine. Weekly chapel services and religion courses are part of this program. Please respond to the above as it relates to your personal educational and career goals. 3.10,748. Reaction score. 17,979. Apr 24, 2022. #1. Please feel free to tag a pre-medical moderator once the secondary prompt has been posted. Good luck to everyone applying! Interview feedback: Nova Southeastern University - Dr. Kiran C. Patel College of Allopathic Medicine Interview Feedback.Sep 5, 2023 · The Sanctions List Search tool uses approximate string matching to identify possible matches between word or character strings as entered into Sanctions List Search, and any name or name component as it appears on the SDN List and/or the various other sanctions lists. Sanctions List Search has a slider-bar that may be used to set a threshold (i ... Jul 18, 2023 · 36. Reaction score. 36. Aug 5, 2022. #34. A thread last year of stats from all schools showed that LECOM (idk if that means all campuses) was 76% for in state applicants, and 36% for out of state. Idk if this is accurate though cause comparing some of the interview numbers and acceptances to MSAR showed a bunch of differences when I looked at ... Apr 21, 2022 · Review of Kansas City University College of Medicine and Biosciences - Joplin . Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. Apr 21, 2022 · PreMed Communities. Pre-Medical (DO) Osteopathic Medical School Discussions Prior Years. 2022-2023 A.T. Still University (Kirksville, Missouri) ATSU-KCOM. PapaGuava. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 2023-2024 MD Medical School-Specific Discussions. Allopathic medical school-specific discussions of secondary prompts, interview invites, and experiences, and general discussions of the admissions process at a particular institution. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors.17,935. Apr 24, 2022. #1. Thank you to @icedsoylatte for sharing this year's questions! 2022-2023 Medical College of Wisconsin (MCW) Secondary Essay Prompts. 1. Explain how your unique background, identity, interests, or talents will contribute to the MCW learning community. (1000 characters) 2. How will MCW uniquely prepare you for your future ...2022-2023 Wright State (Boonshoft) wysdoc. Apr 21, 2022. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you. 1. 2. 3. ….Review of Western University of Health Sciences College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific-Northwest Interview Feedback. Get the latest information, opinions of fellow students, and LizzyM and SDN Rankings. www.studentdoctor.net. Last edited: Jul 7, 2022. S..